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NEWS (& Meetings Elsewhere) (updated  10th August 07)


A New Hand on the Tiller of Cranmer Memorial

We ask all people reading this take up renewed prayer for the future of CMBCS. In October (D.V.) Dr. Tom Boyle will take over the mantle of Principal from Dr. Peter Gadsden. Please be at prayer for a smooth hand-over and with thanksgiving for ten solid years of achievement under Peters Leadership.

The Lord sees and knows and answers our prayers . Please continue to uphold all tutors students and staff. Especially Tom!

Date for your Diary

Convocation 2007

2.00 pm Thursday 25th October 2007

St. Paul's Evangelical Free Church

Whickham Avenue BEXHILL ON SEA

TN39 3ES 


 

Rev. David I. Johnson (P.T.S.)

Wycliffe Preacher for the North East

(A faithfull servant of Christ and friend of West Cliff)

Passed to glory 8th August

The funeral will take place on Thursday 16th August 2007 and Whitley Bay Crematorium at 1pm.

Please remember Hanni , her health continues to give concern. let us pray for her in this difficult time. Family Flowers only any donation in leiu to PTS (10/8/07)


 

15th July 07 Norma the Ministers sister

lost her long fight against ovarian cancer, she died at home with her family at her bedside. Her last few hours were peaceful.

 

Some weeks ago Norma asked me to post her thanks to all who have prayed for and encouraged her through her difficult times,  who she refered to as comrades and helpers..... Thanks from us all.

17/7/07

 


 

Maureen F. 22nd May 07

Today our Sister Maureen passed to Glory and the welcome of her dear Saviour.

We lament her passing and the loss of a co-worker, she will be missed.

Please remember her dear family in their time of sadness

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The Funeral Service of Maureen took place at the Church on Thursday 31st May.

A  vast Congregation of Family and Friends gathered to say goodbye.

Many a tear was wiped away as good times and sad were brought to mind. We took strength together in the promises of Christ in John 14.

Maureen was laid to rest at Whitby Cemetery awaiting the resurrection to eternal life.

On the way to the cemetery the centre of Whitby was brought to a standstill as the cortege of seven limosines and many cars wound its way around town.


 

 

SEXUAL ORIENTATION REGULATIONS 2006

Important regulations being pushed through

We must know about and react to this further intrusion into our liberties 


Da Vinci Code

We add this article not because we worry about our people being taken in so to speak, but because the Book and now Film has such an elaborate tapestry of facts and fancy that we need to be informed about the behind the scenes activities and motives. It comes close to The Passion film in having a facade but behind it is lurking much evil propaganda. Click on any of the text to view an informative site.

 


 

Friday 7th April saw a unique event for WCCC we hosted a relaxation day for the Presbytery of the Presbyterian Reformed Church of America and their guests. The day was a hectic one, but the main event was reformed worship with the minister preaching from Jeremiah 2:13. Earlier a guided tour of Whitby took in most of the points of interst in this remarkable place. It was good to make new friends and meet again some old aquaintances. The PRC was meeing in Presbytery at Saltburn by the Sea and most of the representatives about 50 in total had travelled from the USA and Canada


 
FIRE !

At 6.00pm on Sunday 12th March a fire was discovered in the Brownfield Room of the Church building. It had been caused by a timing device. The smoke and fumes were tremendous and forced the cancellation of the scheduled service. Not only that but on the monday 13th we had a speaker due Bill Cairns (PTS). After the smoke died down it was confirmed the fire had been limited to a small patch which thankfully had flame retardent cushions. We set to, to clean and set up only to see the smoke damage was worse than at first thought. However by midday Monday things were looking better. We also got unexpected help from Spa Electricals (Whitby) Ltd four men in total who downed tools on another job to come and help they helped in repainting the walls, whilst the furniture was washed down and everything cleaned. By the time the Speaker arrived on Monday everything was ship shape. and looking bright and clean.

It was a shock but it is all behind us now. And we are amazed how things came together we are weary but happy that we could achieve such a turnaround.

We praise God that the damage was not much worse.

 

Please keep us in prayer.


 Religious Hatred Bill:

House of Lords

Modifies Religious Hatred Law

 

The Government’s plan to impose its religious hatred legislation, against strong opposition from religious groups and supporters of freedom of speech, received a setback in the House of Lords when peers voted to add substantial safeguards to the bill.

 

The Lords voted by 260 to 111 in favour of a cross-party amendment under which nobody can be found guilty of ‘religious hatred’ unless they intended to stir up hatred. Only threatening words would be banned by the bill, not words which are only abusive or insulting. The bill would state explicitly that the law should not restrict evangelism, discussion or criticism - nor ban expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or beliefs.

 

While many Christians would rather not have the bill at all, this amendment is helpful and the Lords’ vote is a good result.

Answers to likely arguments

(Provided by the Christian Institute)

 

 

The law is needed to address the loophole whereby Sikhs and Jews are protected from racial hatred but Muslims are not.

 

A. Sikhs and Jews are protected by race laws because they are mono-ethnic religions. But it is their race that is protected not their religion. There are court cases in which Muslims were protected in a similar way. The Government now places less reliance on this argument.

 

The law is needed to protect Muslims from a potential 'backlash' following the terrorist attacks.

 

A. There are a wide range of laws available to tackle extremism. The Public Order Act 1986 outlaws causing fear of violence, harassment, alarm or distress. In addition, inciting anyone to commit any criminal offence is itself illegal. In 2001, the government brought in new 'religiously aggravated offences' which increase the penalty for certain existing crimes where they are aggravated by religious hostility. So, for example, when a BNP activist put up a poster saying "Islam out of Britain", he was held to have broken the law against causing 'harassment, alarm and distress' (Norwood, 2002). In addition, his sentence was increased to reflect the 'religious aggravation' element.

 

The law is necessary to protect community cohesion.

 

A. It will cause disharmony not harmony. Militant religious (and secular) groups will use the law against each other for criticism of their beliefs. This has happened in the Australian state of Victoria where a Muslim group successfully complained against a Christian minister for criticising fundamentalist Islam. Some Christians in Victoria are now looking for opportunities to sue Muslims 'back'. The Attorney General of India has pointed out that similar laws in India had a disastrous effect on the relationships between the various religious faiths.

 

The new law is necessary to tackle Muslim extremists who preach terrorism.

 

A. Even the Government does not really believe this - it wants to bring in a whole raft of new anti-terrorism laws after the recent London attacks. The Prime Minister has said he wants to tackle the ideology behind Islamic terrorism. You can hardly do that effectively if there is a law which could be used to prosecute criticism of fundamentalist Islam.

 

The Government has to introduce a religious hatred law as it was an election manifesto pledge.

 

A. The manifesto didn't specify the wording of the law. There are numerous ways of legislating against hatred without following the model chosen for this Bill.

 

The new law will not affect criticism, commentary, ridicule or proselytism.

 

A. The simple fact is: it does not say that in the Bill. It may be the Government's intention, but Government Ministers have not written any safeguards into the Bill which guarantee that. Once the law is in the hands of the lawyers, the only thing that counts is what the law says.

 

The offence has a high threshold - you have to prove someone was stirring up 'hatred', which is a strong word.

 

A. Christians oppose real hatred, but the trouble is that the law could classify disagreement as hatred. This is because the offence has a subjective definition. Reasonable statements of Christian belief are often characterised as 'hatred' by people who strongly disagree with them. In Australia, Daniel Scot, a Pakistani Christian pastor, who made reasonable, mainstream criticisms of fundamentalist Islam, was held to have broken a law against stirring up 'hatred'.

 

The offence has a high threshold - you have to prove someone was 'threatening, abusive or insulting'.

 

A. So at its lowest, this means that you have to prove that someone said something that was insulting. People feel insulted all the time. It is a low test. In the Hammond case in 2002, it was held that a placard equating homosexuality with immorality was insulting to homosexuals. The man who held the placard was convicted of a public order offence. Presumably this means saying that a particular religion is 'immoral' will be regarded as insulting for the purposes of the religious hatred law.

 

The kind of cases you are worried about will never get past the 'evidential' and 'public interest' tests imposed by the Crown Prosecution Service.

 

A. Why should our religious freedom depend on the discretion of an official in the CPS? Maybe they will throw out trivial cases, maybe they won't. Even if they do, this will not prevent preachers being investigated by police. It will not prevent them being arrested. It will not prevent them being charged. Even if the CPS throws out the case, their religious freedoms will already have been infringed.

 

Cases will not be prosecuted unless the Attorney General gives his permission. This will filter out the bad cases.

 

A. The Attorney General cannot stop police investigating or arresting people for religious debate. He cannot stop them passing a file to the CPS. He can only stop a prosecution.

 

There have only been a few racial hatred prosecutions so there will be only be a few religious hatred prosecutions.

 

A. Religion is not like race. Changing race is impossible. But changing religion and debate about religion are common place. There are many more instances where a law on religion could be invoked. In pubs and pulpits all across the country people debate religion, sometimes with great feeling. It is unacceptable to impugn someone because of their race. But it is perfectly proper to criticise someone's religion. Indeed Christians have a moral obligation on them to preach the Gospel which involves saying where other religions are wrong.

 

It is possible to distinguish between a believer and their beliefs. This law protects believers.

 

A. The distinction does not work in practice. The Act defines believers by what they believe. This means that criticism of belief is covered. If the beliefs that a person holds are attacked, that person could feel insulted. If others join in with criticism this could be held to mean that 'hatred was stirred up' - so an offence could be committed.

 

The law requires proof of 'intention'. Surely no-one who intends to stir up religious hatred should get away with it.

 

A. Yes, but the offence covers more than intention. The Bill also says a man can be guilty of an offence if his words are likely to be heard by any person in whom they are likely to stir up hatred and he was aware that his words might be insulting.

 

The Australian pastors you referred to were convicted for calling Muslims "demons". You don't want to allow that sort of thing do you?

 

A. That is untrue. They never called Muslims demons. The two pastors are appealing the case, partly on the basis that the Judge got many of his facts wrong.

 

The Bill has wide support from all faiths.

 

A. This is simply not true. The Home Office is relying on a small group of religious representatives who have signed a statement. But everybody knows there is a very wide range of religious groups who oppose the offence. The Government can't rely on one set of religious groups as if they represent all religious people. They cannot listen to religious groups who agree with them whilst ignoring those who don't.

August 2005


Mel Gibsons film "the Passion of the Christ"

is continuing to be an issue that confuses and divides Christians

look here to find out more about what is behind this Film

 


Gender Recognition Bill

It is now at our door with the North Yorkshire County Council

champing at the bit to offer "Equal" treatment to same sex couples

Both the House of Commons & Lords have dealt with this Bill both have passed it. We must make our objections clear and tell our politicians that this is not acceptable. Especially the Bishops in the House of Lords who voted for it.look at Christian Institute for more details of this


 

 

 

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